From iefseymour at aol.com  Sun Dec 10 04:23:28 2017
From: iefseymour at aol.com (iefseymour at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:23:28 -0500
Subject: [ilds] Alexandria Quartet
Message-ID: <16040614e43-170f-1173a@webjas-vad193.srv.aolmail.net>

Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I read the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described creepers growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for the newer generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me where to find the passage? 

I would like to use it in a funeral oration, my own sadly, to encourage my children to support and help their mother (and others).

Thanks for your help.

Ian Seymour, Northern Ireland

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From james.d.gifford at gmail.com  Sun Dec 10 10:07:03 2017
From: james.d.gifford at gmail.com (James Gifford)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:07:03 -0800
Subject: [ilds] Alexandria Quartet
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Subject: Alexandria Quartet
From: iefseymour at aol.com
Date: 2017-12-10, 4:23 AM
To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca

Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I 
read the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described 
creepers growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for 
the newer generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me 
where to find the passage?

I would like to use it in a funeral oration, my own sadly, to encourage 
my children to support and help their mother (and others).

Thanks for your help.

Ian Seymour, Northern Ireland

From cls9k at virginia.edu  Sun Dec 10 17:07:17 2017
From: cls9k at virginia.edu (Charles Sligh)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:07:17 -0600
Subject: [ilds] Alexandria Quartet
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Dear Ian:

I believe that you are in search of the following quotation:


?First the young, like vines, climb up the dull supports of their elders
who feel their fingers on them, soft and tender; then the old climb down
the lovely supporting bodies of the young into their proper deaths.?


*Balthazar*, I.i


May peace be with you and yours --

Charles

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Charles L. Sligh
charles.sligh at virginia.edu
Assistant Professor, General Faculty
Department of English
University of Virginia
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:23 AM, <iefseymour at aol.com> wrote:

> Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I read
> the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described creepers
> growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for the newer
> generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me where to find the
> passage?
>
> I would like to use it in a funeral oration, my own sadly, to encourage my
> children to support and help their mother (and others).
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Ian Seymour, Northern Ireland
>
>
>
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From sumantranag at gmail.com  Sun Dec 10 19:46:51 2017
From: sumantranag at gmail.com (Sumantra Nag)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:16:51 +0530
Subject: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 123,
 Issue 2_ Message 1_Alexandria Quartet
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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:23:28 -0500
From: iefseymour at aol.com
To: ilds at lists.uvic.cz, ilds at lists.uvic.ca
Subject: [ilds] Alexandria Quartet
Message-ID: <16040614e43-170f-1173a at webjas-vad193.srv.aolmail.net>
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"Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I read
the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described creepers
growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for the newer
generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me where to find the
passage?"
---------------------------
Ian Seymour,

The passage appears in *Balthazar. *In the opening pages when Balthazar
arrives unexpectedly at the island to meet Darley and speaks about Nessim
wanting to see his daughter born from Melissa.

"And he quoted in Greek: 'First the young, like vines, climb up the dull
supports of their elders who feel their fingers on them, soft and tender;
then the old climb down the lovely supporting bodies of the young into
their proper deaths.'"

(Page 214 of The Alexandria Quartet, paperback, Faber and Faber, 1968/1974)

The line appears on the sixth page of the text of *Balthazar, *Part I, 1.

Regards

Sumantra Nag

Sent from my Moto G4 Plus

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:23:28 -0500
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Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I read
the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described creepers
growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for the newer
generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me where to find the
passage?

I would like to use it in a funeral oration, my own sadly, to encourage my
children to support and help their mother (and others).

Thanks for your help.

Ian Seymour, Northern Ireland

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:07:03 -0800
From: James Gifford <james.d.gifford at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ilds] Alexandria Quartet
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Dear all,

The message below is from an off-list, non-subscribed email account, so
if you have input, please write to him directly or include his email in
your response (he won't receive messages sent directly to the listserv
only).

All best,
James

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Subject: Alexandria Quartet
From: iefseymour at aol.com
Date: 2017-12-10, 4:23 AM
To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca

Hello, I am hoping someone may be able to help. Back in the 1960's I
read the book at college and a section stuck in my mind. It described
creepers growing up old structures and supporting them as a metaphor for
the newer generations supporting their elders. Can some one Tell me
where to find the passage?

I would like to use it in a funeral oration, my own sadly, to encourage
my children to support and help their mother (and others).

Thanks for your help.

Ian Seymour, Northern Ireland


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