[ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 15

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In his "Lawrence Durrell in the OED" (sent as a link below) J Gifford states that "Justine" is "without any meaningful Arab characters". Eh? Sure proof that one can read a very different book to the next guy.
RP 
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Send ILDS mailing list submissions to	ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit	https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to	ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach the person managing the list at	ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Nin, Durrell, Miller (Bruce Redwine) 2. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12 (mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org) 3. Happy Birthday (James Gifford)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:27:26 -0800From: Bruce Redwine To: Sumantra Nag Cc: Bruce Redwine Subject: [ilds] Nin, Durrell, MillerMessage-ID: <14C19597-F263-4ADB-B3A3-A88506A66C7C at earthlink.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Interesting exchange between Herron and Pine, which highlights the difference between public and private relationships.I recommend Richard Pine?s previous commentary on the ?three musketeers?: His ?The End of Our Romantic Life: The Psychic Hinterland of Nin, Durrell and Miller? in A Caf? in Space: The Ana?s Nin Literary Journal, 3 (2005), 5-16. Also, the current issue of Caf? in Space is well worth reading.Bruce> On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Sky Blue Press  wrote:> > Sure, Anais Nin's popularity has diminished since the height of her fame,> but we overlook one of the biggest reasons: she is no longer around to> inspire in person. It was her persona that drew so many, along with the> work. Now it is up to the rest of us to carry on. I, for one, can only> continue to edit and publish her work and let it into the world where it> will either sink or swim--but it at least has a chance. I do so because I> believe it is valuable and still speaks to the open-minded and open-hearted.> The feedback I get encourages me. I have to add that awareness of and> respect for her work, her insight into her own difficulties and her struggle> to overcome them, a lifelong endeavor, is increasing. There are a lot of new> fans buying her work. An article in The Guardian last year called Nin the> queen of the internet, something she most likely would have loved. A> documentary on her was done in the UK, and there is buzz about a series on> HBO which may use her diaries as a guide for production. So perhaps we are> making a difference in some small way. > > I am used to resistance to her work (or should I say life?) in the ILDS--my> first conference in 1998, whose theme was The Paris of Durrell, Miller and> Nin, found us in empty rooms for the Nin sessions, countering verbal> attacks, especially of the "morality" type, and Carol Peirce bemoaned the> "castigation" of Nin during a plenary session. That said, I feel the> attitudes were changing for the better during subsequent conferences, at> least among a certain number within the organization. I'm not complaining,> it's just the way it is, or was. Regarding the New York Times' history of> bashing of Nin, I would recommend reading Jessica Gilbey's contribution to A> Caf? in Space, vol. 13. She sheds some light on where it comes from. The> article was drawn from her Ph.D. thesis on Nin.> > Paul > > > > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:14:48 +0000> From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> >> From reading the biographies, the various editions of the Nin diaries, and> other correspondence etc, and from personal testimony, I appreciate that,> although there was a shared aesthetic camaraderie between Nin, LDurrell and> H Miller, there were huge personal differences. LD bitchily said (both in> print and to me personally) that he was the only man he knew who hadn't been> bedded by Nin. They had a short war over one of her books, and the> friendship (if it was ever that) was never as intense or meaningful as that> of LD with Miller, with whom also LD fell out - but only briefly, over> SEXUS. > It's been well documented that in Paris LD deliberately discounted Nancy in> order to impress the others, and maybe to ingratiate himself, but I think> (this is my personal view) that however much he vaunted Nin publicly (and> his account of the 3 of them 'on the grandes lignes' as he wrote to me and> as I published it, was genuine) he never liked her as a person and I don't> think his private opinion of her work was as strong as he publicly> pretended. Maybe his personal dislike/distrust of her coloured his view of> her writing.> As to Nin's public reputation, she could certainly appear unpleasant,> scheming, devious and duplicitous. But one cannot (in my opinion) disregard> the imprtance of SOME of her work, especially the early stuff. but the> various editions of the diary, both during her lifetime and posthumously,> have revealed an aspect that would deter many from taking her seriously. A> pity - a fine talent, in emotional terms and in terms of her perceptions,> even her storytelling (as evidenced by her written-to-order pornography)> which was unfortunately coloured by her personal problems which I think> attracted many women to her work at the height of the feminist resurgence> and has since been diminished by, for example, the fact that she kept 2> husbands on either side of the USA each of whom (we are led to believe) was> ignorant of the other. Maybe a man would applaud another man who managed to> be bigamous in such a way. Such, as Ned Kelly said, is life.> RP-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: ------------------------------Message: 2Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 22:36:46 +0000From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.orgTo: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Just to clear up what LD actually wrote to me regarding Nin, Miller and himself:"We are all such different writers. How to explain our sound solidarity and affection? It was not because of any identity of ideas on style, philosophy, art, etc. etc. I was often irritated by Anais and she by me; also Henry didn't like my 'literary' style. YET DESPITE RESERVATIONS WE WERE QUITE UNSHAKEABLE FRIENDS AND WOULD HAVE GONE THRU FIRE FOR EACH OTHER! We disagreed violently on details but on the grand lines we were quite solidly linked."Letter LD to RP 20 October 1984 (caps in original).RP -----Original Message-----From: ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca]Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 09:01 PMTo: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12Send ILDS mailing list submissions to	ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit	https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to	ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach the person managing the list at	ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Nin and Durrell (Kennedy Gammage) 2. Re: Nin and Durrell (Bruce Redwine) 3. Re: Nin and Durrell (Denise Tart & David Green)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:07:52 -0800From: Kennedy Gammage To: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: [ilds] Nin and DurrellMessage-ID:	Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"ILDS member Paul Herron?s Ana?s Nin Literary Journal A CAF? IN SPACE 13arrived in today?s mail, and Lawrence Durrell is mentioned, though inpassing. For more color about Ana?s and Larr! y (she clearly found him awhole lot more interesting than Nancy!) the Diary of Ana?s Nin Volume Two1934-1939 is worth re-reading. She says: ?Under the golden tanned skin,the blond hair, the sea-bottom eyes, behind the poetic gestures, mellow andhuman, he has found a cataract of words, a universe of nuances, shadows,quarter tones. Not by way of neurosis did he discover the imagination hehas. He is like a sailor, a mountaineer who has been visited byrevelations. There is a miracle about his creation. He is a bit amazed. Hewalks the familiar streets with a vague uneasiness. The wine bottle hasbecome symbolical. This expresses all he is fighting against. He does notwant to lose the warmth, the flesh, the odor, the reality.?I guess the main thing that jumped out from Caf? 13 was how vicious the NewYork Times has been to Nin for 50 years. When you read it, it?s anembarrassment. They owe her (and we her fans) a huge apology!Best - Ken-------------- next part --------------An HTML ! attachment was scrubbed...URL: ------------------------------Message: 2Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:22:08 -0800From: Bruce Redwine To: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: Re: [ilds] Nin and DurrellMessage-ID: <9C9A31FD-64BA-4F23-A676-7013687BCF41 at earthlink.net>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8Ken is enthusiastic and convincing.Paul Herron, your response?BruceSent from my iPhone> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Kennedy Gammage wrote:> > ILDS member Paul Herron?s Ana?s Nin Literary Journal A CAF? IN SPACE 13 arrived in today?s mail, and Lawrence Durrell is mentioned, though in passing. For more color about Ana?s and Larry (she clearly found him a whole lot more interesting than Nancy!) the Diary of Ana?s Nin Volume Two 1934-1939 is worth re-reading. She says: ?Under the golden tanned skin, the blond hair, the sea-bottom eyes, behind the poetic gestures, mellow and human, he has found a cataract of words, a universe of nuances, shadows, quarter tones. Not by way of neurosis did he discover the imagination he has. He is like a sailor, a mountaineer who ha! s been visited by revelations. There is a miracle about his creation. He is a bit amazed. He walks the familiar streets with a vague uneasiness. The wine bottle has become symbolical. This expresses all he is fighting against. He does not want to lose the warmth, the flesh, the odor, the reality.?> > I guess the main thing that jumped out from Caf? 13 was how vicious the New York Times has been to Nin for 50 years. When you read it, it?s an embarrassment. They owe her (and we her fans) a huge apology!> > Best - Ken> > _______________________________________________> ILDS mailing list> ILDS at lists.uvic.ca> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds------------------------------Message: 3Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:33:15 +1100From: Denise Tart & David Green To: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: Re: [ilds] Nin and DurrellMessage-ID: <41DD6FCD-AEAD-40B2-BD45-26B73D71C8F2 at bigpond.net.au>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8Ken,Nin provides a wonderful and perceptive description of Larr! y in his twenties, the emerging writer, the qualities that made him attractive to many women and an early glimpse of the unease with the world as it is that would later dog him, not to mention the symbolic bottle that later became a hogshead. But it also portrays a masculine visceral creator whose imagination was born of life experience rather that fantasy. Thanks for sharing Ken.Sent from my iPad> On 24 Feb 2016, at 2:22 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote:> > Ken is enthusiastic and convincing.> > Paul Herron, your response?> > > Bruce> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Kennedy Gammage wrote:>> >> ILDS member Paul Herron?s Ana?s Nin Literary Journal A CAF? IN SPACE 13 arrived in today?s mail, and Lawrence Durrell is mentioned, though in passing. For more color about Ana?s and Larry (she clearly found him a whole lot more interesting than Nancy!) the Diary of Ana?s Nin Volume Two 1934-1939 is worth re-reading. She says: ?Under the golden tanned skin, the blond hair, the sea-bottom eyes, behind the poetic gestures, mellow and human,! he has found a cataract of words, a universe of nuances, shadows, quarter tones. Not by way of neurosis did he discover the imagination he has. He is like a sailor, a mountaineer who has been visited by revelations. There is a miracle about his creation. He is a bit amazed. He walks the familiar streets with a vague uneasiness. The wine bottle has become symbolical. This expresses all he is fighting against. He does not want to lose the warmth, the flesh, the odor, the reality.?>> >> I guess the main thing that jumped out from Caf? 13 was how vicious the New York Times has been to Nin for 50 years. When you read it, it?s an embarrassment. They owe her (and we her fans) a huge apology!>> >> Best - Ken>> >> _______________________________________________>> ILDS mailing list>> ILDS at lists.uvic.ca>> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds> > _______________________________________________> ILDS mailing list> ILDS at lists.uvic.ca> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds---! ---------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________ILDS mailing listILDS at lists.uvic.cahttps://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds------------------------------End of ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12*************************************-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: ------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:51:52 -0800From: James Gifford To: ILDS Listserv Subject: [ilds] Happy BirthdayMessage-ID: <56D1FE58.1080508 at gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowedHello all,It's time for a happy birthday to Old D. Here's a cheeky blog I wrote a few years ago for Oxford Dictionaries to follow on the centenary (they posted it Nov. 7th to commemorate his death): http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/11/a-durrellian-dictionary/I'll raise a glass this evening, but in the meantime, cheers to all of you.All best,James------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________ILDS mailing listILDS at lists.uvic.cahttps://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds------------------------------End of ILDS Digest, Vol 106, Issue 15*************************************
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