From sumantranag at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 20:22:15 2015
From: sumantranag at gmail.com (Sumantra Nag)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:52:15 +0530
Subject: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 18
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Richard,

A point of clarification please in your beleaguered present condition
brought about by you humanitarian instinct and action:

To whom are you referring as "surd" in your mail below? (" . . more strange
than a surd . . ")

Sumantra

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> I am of course very grateful to bothSumantra and Bruce for their
> solicitude about my humanitarianism and my work,but I did not reveal what
> has been happening to me and my guest/prot?g? inorder to garner sympathy.
> I brought it to your attention becausesuddenly ? in an unwise moment, no
> doubt ? I saw that what this group has beendiscussing about self and other,
> about fact, fiction and supposition, wasactually happening in the privacy
> of my own life ? a privacy which has becometragically public due to T?s
> escapade.
> Obviously the arrival of ?Tirana? in my lifechanged many things, but if
> one works for a living, as I do (even after 2retirements!) the job must be
> done or I (and now we) would starve. The legalobstacle we are both facing,
> and the village gossip which precipitated it, haveof course exacerbated
> this, but, provided we get a positive outcome I amconfident that, unless
> some other event supervenes (such as the utterly remote possibility of T?s
> long-lostfamily claiming her) the life we had already established over the
> past fewmonths will continue.
> Even if I ? or rather, my lawyer whospecialises in human rights, which is
> rather necessary in Greek law ?succeed(s) in holding on to T, she will
> still have no history, and no identityother than what I can invent for her.
> (In a country known for what the secretpolice (who still exist) can do, it
> isn?t funny.)
> Some may regard it as a disadvantage that Icannot communicate in what
> conventional semioticists regard as ?human language?? they should try
> reading ?The Simian Tongue? (George Radick) or even the workof Lee Durrell
> on the language of primates, before prescribing human languagefor T and me.
> What I have had to come to terms with isnot ? this may surprise you ? the
> problem of communication ? finding a commonlanguage ? but the presence in
> my life of something (someone) more strange thana surd or an aboriginal, or
> an emotional cripple: a being who has to becomereal by being imagined and
> at the same time respected as a person of flesh andblood.
> Some on this group have expressedscepticism about the idea of the ?double?
> and the self-other dichotomy. Well,think ? if you want a literary, rather
> than a ?real life? example - of how this is expressed by Beckett in
> ?Film?:?Search of non-being in flight from extraneous perception breaking
> down ininescapability of self-perception. In order to be figured in this
> situation theprotagonist is sundered into object (O) and Eye (E), the
> former in flight, thelatter in pursuit. It will not be made clear until end
> of film that pursuingperception is not extraneous, but self?.
> Not extraneous, but self. Think about that!
> Ah, you will say. But that is only Beckett,that is only literature, that
> is only his scenario for Buster Keaton. Ah, saysI, that is before we (T and
> I) reached the end of the film and realised that mypursuit of her meaning
> was not extraneous, but self. Seldom have I (never infact) been so humbled
> by this revelation, especially as it is complicated, as Isaid, by love. Oh,
> that?s only a story? Come here and see for yourself. Putyour own E into
> pursuit of the O of my life and observe me finding not merelymyself, not
> merely Tirana, but the truth of masks (apologies, Mr Wilde). T isno longer
> ?extraneous? ? a weird outsider crouching like a fearful animal inthe
> corner of my room, an ?other?, but SELF ? my self and T?s self are now in
> asymbiotic unity (non-sexual as I have explained) which is
> challenginglybeautiful.
> I have written all this in order to try toexplain to people who would
> rather explain everything through the lenses ofDaddy Derrida that there is
> a REAL world with REAL fictions and REAL quotationsfrom our emotions. One
> of them is sitting here beside me as I write this. Beckett (again) in
> "Rockaby" says "fuck life" (a line most purist critics despair of) - I saay
> "fuck Derrida - love life".
> This episode ? so late in my life ? hasmade me realise that Josef K and
> Gregor Samsa found themselves inincomprehensible situations in which Kafka
> himself had lived (or failed tolive). In which their truth was the fiction
> of others. Yes, you will say, thatis a story. But what IS a ?story?? and
> what IS ?life?? I have described mypresent circumstances in order to show
> you that real life and the fictionallife are interdependent and that one is
> at pains to insist on truth whichothers regard as less than true, to
> question whether a fiction can also be atruth. If you don?t like Groddeck?s
> ?I am lived by the It? (as developed byDurrell in that poem, ?Je est un
> autre? ? and study the syntax of that title)try living with and for Tirana
> ? if you dare.
> In my own case I wake sometimes thinking?this cannot be true?. But then I
> see T and I know how appallingly true it ?she ? is, how love and beauty can
> transform a nightmare into an occasion ofrejoicing, however challenging ?
> and dangerous ? that may be.
> I am guilty of the crime prescribed ? but notproscribed ? by LD: ?there
> are only three things to be done with a woman You can love her, suffer for
> her, or turn her into literature?. I am doing allthree. LD would have done
> the same ? and DID!
> I do not know what the outcome will be.
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> charset="utf-8"Richard's intensely human dedication to the rescue and
> resuscitation of theAlbanian girl deserves every (discreet)
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 To the woman in question.
RP
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Send ILDS mailing list submissions to	ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit	https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to	ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach the person managing the list at	ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 18 (Sumantra Nag)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:52:15 +0530From: Sumantra Nag To: ilds at lists.uvic.caCc: Richard Pine Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 18Message-ID:	Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Richard,A point of clarification please in your beleaguered present conditionbrought about by you humanitarian instinct and action:To whom are you referring as "surd" in your mail below? (" . . more strangethan a surd . . ")SumantraSent from my Asus ZenfoneOn 22 Dec 2015 01:31,  wrote:> Send ILDS mailing list submissions to> ilds at lists.uvic.ca>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca>> You can reach the person managing the list at> ilds-owner at lists.uvic.ca>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of ILDS digest...">>> Today's Topics:>> 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17 (mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org)>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> Message: 1> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 23:38:56 +0000> From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii">> I am of course very grateful to bothSumantra and Bruce for their> solicitude about my humanitarianism and my work,but I did not reveal what> has been happening to me and my guest/prot?g? inorder to garner sympathy.> I brought it to your attention becausesuddenly ? in an unwise moment, no> doubt ? I saw that what this group has beendiscussing about self and other,> about fact, fiction and supposition, wasactually happening in the privacy> of my own life ? a privacy which has becometragically public due to T?s> escapade.> Obviously the arrival of ?Tirana? in my lifechanged many things, but if> one works for a living, as I do (even after 2retirements!) the job must be> done or I (and now we) would starve. The legalobstacle we are both facing,> and the village gossip which precipitated it, haveof course exacerbated> this, but, provided we get a positive outcome I amconfident that, unless> some other event supervenes (such as the utterly remote possibility of T?s> long-lostfamily claiming her) the life we had already established over the> past fewmonths will continue.> Even if I ? or rather, my lawyer whospecialises in human rights, which is> rather necessary in Greek law ?succeed(s) in holding on to T, she will> still have no history, and no identityother than what I can invent for her.> (In a country known for what the secretpolice (who still exist) can do, it> isn?t funny.)> Some may regard it as a disadvantage that Icannot communicate in what> conventional semioticists regard as ?human language?? they should try> reading ?The Simian Tongue? (George Radick) or even the workof Lee Durrell> on the language of primates, before prescribing human languagefor T and me.> What I have had to come to terms with isnot ? this may surprise you ? the> problem of communication ? finding a commonlanguage ? but the presence in> my life of something (someone) more strange thana surd or an aboriginal, or> an emotional cripple: a being who has to becomereal by being imagined and> at the same time respected as a person of flesh andblood.> Some on this group have expressedscepticism about the idea of the ?double?> and the self-other dichotomy. Well,think ? if you want a literary, rather> than a ?real life? example - of how this is expressed by Beckett in> ?Film?:?Search of non-being in flight from extraneous perception breaking> down ininescapability of self-perception. In order to be figured in this> situation theprotagonist is sundered into object (O) and Eye (E), the> former in flight, thelatter in pursuit. It will not be made clear until end> of film that pursuingperception is not extraneous, but self?.> Not extraneous, but self. Think about that!> Ah, you will say. But that is only Beckett,that is only literature, that> is only his scenario for Buster Keaton. Ah, saysI, that is before we (T and> I) reached the end of the film and realised that mypursuit of her meaning> was not extraneous, but self. Seldom have I (never infact) been so humbled> by this revelation, especially as it is complicated, as Isaid, by love. Oh,> that?s only a story? Come here and see for yourself. Putyour own E into> pursuit of the O of my life and observe me finding not merelymyself, not> merely Tirana, but the truth of masks (apologies, Mr Wilde). T isno longer> ?extraneous? ? a weird outsider crouching like a fearful animal inthe> corner of my room, an ?other?, but SELF ? my self and T?s self are now in> asymbiotic unity (non-sexual as I have explained) which is> challenginglybeautiful.> I have written all this in order to try toexplain to people who would> rather explain everything through the lenses ofDaddy Derrida that there is> a REAL world with REAL fictions and REAL quotationsfrom our emotions. One> of them is sitting here beside me as I write this. Beckett (again) in> "Rockaby" says "fuck life" (a line most purist critics despair of) - I saay> "fuck Derrida - love life".> This episode ? so late in my life ? hasmade me realise that Josef K and> Gregor Samsa found themselves inincomprehensible situations in which Kafka> himself had lived (or failed tolive). In which their truth was the fiction> of others. Yes, you will say, thatis a story. But what IS a ?story?? and> what IS ?life?? I have described mypresent circumstances in order to show> you that real life and the fictionallife are interdependent and that one is> at pains to insist on truth whichothers regard as less than true, to> question whether a fiction can also be atruth. If you don?t like Groddeck?s> ?I am lived by the It? (as developed byDurrell in that poem, ?Je est un> autre? ? and study the syntax of that title)try living with and for Tirana> ? if you dare.> In my own case I wake sometimes thinking?this cannot be true?. But then I> see T and I know how appallingly true it ?she ? is, how love and beauty can> transform a nightmare into an occasion ofrejoicing, however challenging ?> and dangerous ? that may be.> I am guilty of the crime prescribed ? but notproscribed ? by LD: ?there> are only three things to be done with a woman You can love her, suffer for> her, or turn her into literature?. I am doing allthree. LD would have done> the same ? and DID!> I do not know what the outcome will be.> -----Original Message-----> From: ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca]> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 09:01 PM> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17>> Send ILDS mailing list submissions to ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or> unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message> with subject or body 'help' to ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach> the person managing the list at ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying,> please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of> ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue> 16_Message 1 Richard Pine (Sumantra> Nag)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message:> 1Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 09:01:29 +0530From: Sumantra Nag To:> ilds at lists.uvic.caCc: Richard Pine Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol> 104, Issue 16_Message 1 Richard PineMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;> charset="utf-8"Richard's intensely human dedication to the rescue and> resuscitation of theAlbanian girl deserves every (discreet)> commendation.SumantraSent from my Asus Zenfone------------------!> -----------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Fri, 18> Dec 2015 20:31:56 +0000From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.orgTo:> ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 15Some> people on this list seem to think thatone can draw a line between factand> fiction, or between truth and falsehood.Well then?Let me therefore tell you> ? in completeconfidence of course - a story thatwill frighten, shock, and> dismay you. 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From gammage.kennedy at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 13:08:40 2015
From: gammage.kennedy at gmail.com (Kennedy Gammage)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 13:08:40 -0800
Subject: [ilds] Trash and Thrush
Message-ID: <CANDhJnQ6CgdQPEjuDS6mjXGveRNqu83tDOj=aqgeyhKFEbusHw@mail.gmail.com>

This could be a terrific paper at OMG if you have the time, and an easy way
of digitally searching and copying text out of the AQII e-book. I think
Trash (Pia?s girlfriend) is mainly in the first book, while her
postmodern/sci-fi alter-ego Thrush is mostly in Livia or Constance? Who are
they and what do we know about them? What can we say about the nature of
their relationship as entangled secondary-and-tertiary characters? How can
we trace them back to Old D?s vision for their fellow mysterious pairs
?from other time-fields or other contingent realities???

Just a thought. Let me know if you want to collaborate on it. And Happy
Holidays!

- Ken
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From mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org  Wed Dec 23 12:53:18 2015
From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org (mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:53:18 +0000
Subject: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 20
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As a matter of clarification: Sumantra asked me to whom the word "surd" applied, and two others asked me to clarify the term. I applied the word "surd", meaning "mute", to my Albanian "ward". It seemed the appropriate term.
RP 
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Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 19 (mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:36:25 +0000From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.orgTo: ilds at lists.uvic.caCc: sumantranag at gmail.comSubject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 19Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To the woman in question.RP-----Original Message-----From: ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca]Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 09:01 PMTo: ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 19Send ILDS mailing list submissions to	ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit	https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to	ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach the person managing the list at	ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 18 (Sumantra Nag)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:52:15 +0530From: Sumantra Nag To: ilds at lists.uvic.caCc: Richard Pine Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 18Message-ID:	Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Richard,A point of clarification please in your beleaguered present conditionbrought about by you humanitarian instinct and action:To whom are you referring as "surd" in your mail below? (" . . more strangethan a surd . . ")S! umantraSent from my Asus ZenfoneOn 22 Dec 2015 01:31, wrote:> Send ILDS mailing list submissions to> ilds at lists.uvic.ca>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca>> You can reach the person managing the list at> ilds-owner at lists.uvic.ca>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of ILDS digest...">>> Today's Topics:>> 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17 (mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org)>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> Message: 1> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 23:38:56 +0000> From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.org> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii">> I am of course very grateful to bothSumantra and Bruce for their> solicitude about my humanitariani! sm and my work,but I did not reveal what> has been happening to me and my guest/prot?g? inorder to garner sympathy.> I brought it to your attention becausesuddenly ? in an unwise moment, no> doubt ? I saw that what this group has beendiscussing about self and other,> about fact, fiction and supposition, wasactually happening in the privacy> of my own life ? a privacy which has becometragically public due to T?s> escapade.> Obviously the arrival of ?Tirana? in my lifechanged many things, but if> one works for a living, as I do (even after 2retirements!) the job must be> done or I (and now we) would starve. The legalobstacle we are both facing,> and the village gossip which precipitated it, haveof course exacerbated> this, but, provided we get a positive outcome I amconfident that, unless> some other event supervenes (such as the utterly remote possibility of T?s> long-lostfamily claiming her) the life we had already established over the> past fewmonths will continue.> Even if I ? or rather, my lawyer whospecialises in human rights, which is> ra! ther necessary in Greek law ?succeed(s) in holding on to T, she will> still have no history, and no identityother than what I can invent for her.> (In a country known for what the secretpolice (who still exist) can do, it> isn?t funny.)> Some may regard it as a disadvantage that Icannot communicate in what> conventional semioticists regard as ?human language?? they should try> reading ?The Simian Tongue? (George Radick) or even the workof Lee Durrell> on the language of primates, before prescribing human languagefor T and me.> What I have had to come to terms with isnot ? this may surprise you ? the> problem of communication ? finding a commonlanguage ? but the presence in> my life of something (someone) more strange thana surd or an aboriginal, or> an emotional cripple: a being who has to becomereal by being imagined and> at the same time respected as a person of flesh andblood.> Some on this group have expressedscepticism about the idea of the ?double?> and the self-other! dichotomy. Well,think ? if you want a literary, rather> than a ?real life? example - of how this is expressed by Beckett in> ?Film?:?Search of non-being in flight from extraneous perception breaking> down ininescapability of self-perception. In order to be figured in this> situation theprotagonist is sundered into object (O) and Eye (E), the> former in flight, thelatter in pursuit. It will not be made clear until end> of film that pursuingperception is not extraneous, but self?.> Not extraneous, but self. Think about that!> Ah, you will say. But that is only Beckett,that is only literature, that> is only his scenario for Buster Keaton. Ah, saysI, that is before we (T and> I) reached the end of the film and realised that mypursuit of her meaning> was not extraneous, but self. Seldom have I (never infact) been so humbled> by this revelation, especially as it is complicated, as Isaid, by love. Oh,> that?s only a story? Come here and see for yourself. Putyour own E into> pursuit of the O of my life and observe me finding not merelymyself, not> me! rely Tirana, but the truth of masks (apologies, Mr Wilde). T isno longer> ?extraneous? ? a weird outsider crouching like a fearful animal inthe> corner of my room, an ?other?, but SELF ? my self and T?s self are now in> asymbiotic unity (non-sexual as I have explained) which is> challenginglybeautiful.> I have written all this in order to try toexplain to people who would> rather explain everything through the lenses ofDaddy Derrida that there is> a REAL world with REAL fictions and REAL quotationsfrom our emotions. One> of them is sitting here beside me as I write this. Beckett (again) in> "Rockaby" says "fuck life" (a line most purist critics despair of) - I saay> "fuck Derrida - love life".> This episode ? so late in my life ? hasmade me realise that Josef K and> Gregor Samsa found themselves inincomprehensible situations in which Kafka> himself had lived (or failed tolive). In which their truth was the fiction> of others. Yes, you will say, thatis a story. But what IS a! ?story?? and> what IS ?life?? I have described mypresent circumstances in order to show> you that real life and the fictionallife are interdependent and that one is> at pains to insist on truth whichothers regard as less than true, to> question whether a fiction can also be atruth. If you don?t like Groddeck?s> ?I am lived by the It? (as developed byDurrell in that poem, ?Je est un> autre? ? and study the syntax of that title)try living with and for Tirana> ? if you dare.> In my own case I wake sometimes thinking?this cannot be true?. But then I> see T and I know how appallingly true it ?she ? is, how love and beauty can> transform a nightmare into an occasion ofrejoicing, however challenging ?> and dangerous ? that may be.> I am guilty of the crime prescribed ? but notproscribed ? by LD: ?there> are only three things to be done with a woman You can love her, suffer for> her, or turn her into literature?. I am doing allthree. LD would have done> the same ? and DID!> I do not know what the outcome will be.> -----Original Message-----> From: il! ds-request at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-request at lists.uvic.ca]> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 09:01 PM> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17>> Send ILDS mailing list submissions to ilds at lists.uvic.caTo subscribe or> unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ildsor, via email, send a message> with subject or body 'help' to ilds-request at lists.uvic.caYou can reach> the person managing the list at ilds-owner at lists.uvic.caWhen replying,> please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of> ILDS digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue> 16_Message 1 Richard Pine (Sumantra> Nag)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message:> 1Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 09:01:29 +0530From: Sumantra Nag To:> ilds at lists.uvic.caCc: Richard Pine Subject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol> 104, Issue 16_Message 1 Richard PineMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;> charset="ut! f-8"Richard's intensely human dedication to the rescue and> resuscitation of theAlbanian girl deserves every (discreet)> commendation.SumantraSent from my Asus Zenfone------------------!> -----------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Fri, 18> Dec 2015 20:31:56 +0000From: mail at durrelllibrarycorfu.orgTo:> ilds at lists.uvic.caSubject: Re: [ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 104, Issue 15Some> people on this list seem to think thatone can draw a line between factand> fiction, or between truth and falsehood.Well then?Let me therefore tell you> ? in completeconfidence of course - a story thatwill frighten, shock, and> dismay you. 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From james.d.gifford at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 16:59:34 2015
From: james.d.gifford at gmail.com (James Gifford)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 16:59:34 -0800
Subject: [ilds] Nessim, Rex Warner, & George de Menasce
Message-ID: <56808976.9010003@gmail.com>

Hello all,

This post from Michael Haag might be of interest!

http://michaelhaag.blogspot.ca/2015/12/nessim-hosnani-in-lawrence-durrells.html

And just for Bruce, a dastardly bit on Mustapha Marrouchi writing on 
Edward Said:

http://michaelhaag.blogspot.ca/2015/11/beyond-limit-with-mustapha-marrouchi.html

The revelations on Marrouchi to which Michael refers are here:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/education/unlv-fires-professor-accused-serial-plagiarism

(as an aside, the article on "Blodgett" in which Marrouchi's plagiarism 
was detected is Ted Blodgett from my alma mater, the University of 
Alberta -- the journal that published the piece is known for having 
especially rigorous peer review, so this is a real surprise)

Just for the record, I've previously pointed out that Marrouchi's 
/Edward Said at the Limits/ is missing citations to works from which it 
quotes...  I wrote to him in March 2006 (I didn't attend the DSC 
seminars he was in), and he told me it was in reference to Said's 
private papers that he'd read in Said's office, but now I'm wondering if 
that was just invented.  It appears unreliable narrators are ubiquitous 
these days!

All best,
James