[ilds] Interesting adventures of Paddy Fermor and Larry Durrell

Marc Piel marc at marcpiel.fr
Tue Jun 10 13:35:43 PDT 2014


Some would say prude bastards!!!

Le 10/06/14 20:35, Bruce Redwine a écrit :
> Now that you've brought it up.  I supposed 
> everyone has his/her notions of what amusing 
> behavior is, especially in the context of boys 
> frolicking around after probably too much wine. 
>  Artemis Cooper seems to be describing some kind 
> of public school frolic.  I do, however, find it 
> strange to have Durrell described as holding 
> "the victim's [Paddy's] penis," if accurate.  On 
> the other hand, maybe this is what went on in 
> the public schools around this time --- all in 
> complete innocence.  Cooper describes Leigh 
> Fermor and Fielding as "brothers-in-arms," which 
> they were on Crete and "friends ever after." 
>  This is a fine example of male bonding in the 
> military.  Had the U.S. soldiers of this period 
> been photographed engaging in such horseplay, 
> however, a charge of homosexuality could have 
> been brought (possibly resulting in dismissal 
> from the service).  But we Americans are a bunch 
> of prudes.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Lee Sternthal 
> <lalexsternthal at gmail.com 
> <mailto:lalexsternthal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> i think in order to find what you're looking 
>> for it sounds like you're making the case that 
>> you'd have to look for it in friends and 
>> associates' correspondence, journals and 
>> accounts.  and that does sound like the way to 
>> go.  but this episode recorded by Fermur sounds 
>> more amusing than erotic.  i think i'd probably 
>> also be a bit more intrigued if the owner of 
>> the "victim's penis" hadn't been married/with 
>> his wife Joan for nearly 60 years before she 
>> passed.
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Bruce Redwine 
>> <bredwine1968 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:bredwine1968 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> David, I'd like to see Joan's photograph of 
>>> the tableau at the sacrificial altar.  It's 
>>> not in Cooper's book, although a photo of a 
>>> naked Xan atop a column is.  Aside from the 
>>> work done by his editor, Durrell himself 
>>> edited a lot out of his island books. 
>>>  Probably for reasons of privacy and 
>>> confidentiality.  He does, however, seem to 
>>> allude to private matters.  E.g., the 
>>> beginning of /Bitter Lemons/ and the colors of 
>>> Venice described as though "stricken by 
>>> dementia."  Why dementia?  Well, prior to 
>>> Venice he'd been visiting Eve in a hospital in 
>>> Germany where she was being treated for 
>>> schizophrenia.  Michael Haag has a lot of say 
>>> about this kind of thing.  Durrell writes in 
>>> code.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Denise Tart & 
>>> David Green <dtart at bigpond.net.au 
>>> <mailto:dtart at bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "After a few days on Santorini they went to 
>>>> Rhodes, where Lawrence Durrell was living 
>>>> with his second wife, Eve Cohen, in the Villa 
>>>> Cleobolus..'It was an amazing sojourn, spent 
>>>> in talk and music and feasting, ' wrote 
>>>> Paddy. 'Strange things always happened in his 
>>>> company and one afternoon, in the ruins of 
>>>> ancient Camirus, wine sprung curiosity set 
>>>> the four of us crawling on hands and knees 
>>>> through the bat-infested warren of 
>>>> underground conduits. We climbed out covered 
>>>> in droppings and dust and cobwebs...
>>>> With their clothes so torn and filthy, it 
>>>> seemed like a good idea to take them off. 
>>>> They walked on naked and came across a stone 
>>>> that looked just like a sacrificial altar. A 
>>>> tableau was made, photographed by Joan: paddy 
>>>> lay across the stone and Larry held the 
>>>> sacrificial victim's penis, while beetle 
>>>> browed Xan wielded an enormous knife. Then, 
>>>> still naked, they walked along the top of a 
>>>> high wall (where Xan) struck an Eros pose, 
>>>> immortalised in another photo by Joan whom 
>>>> Durrell described as 'The Corn Goddess'. As 
>>>> for Paddy he was described as 'a wonderful 
>>>> mad Irishman... quite the most enchanting 
>>>> maniac I've ever met'."
>>>> From Patrick Leigh Fermor: an Adventure by 
>>>> Artemis Cooper (2012)
>>>> Thought this might amuse/delight/intrigue in 
>>>> the light of recent discussions. By the way, 
>>>> Durrell's own island book are remarkably 
>>>> devoid such such escapades and sexuality. 
>>>> Indeed apart from vague implications and 
>>>> polite descriptions Durrell's island books 
>>>> are quite sexless, unlike the biggies. 
>>>> Perhaps a carefully edited version of himself..
>>>> David
>>>> 16 William Street
>>>> Marrickville NSW 2204
>>>> Australia
>>>> +61 2 9564 6165
>>>> 0412 707 625
>>>> www.denisetart.com.au 
>>>> <http://www.denisetart.com.au/>
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