[ilds] Interesting adventures of Paddy Fermor and Larry Durrell

Marc Piel marc at marcpiel.fr
Tue Jun 10 13:32:45 PDT 2014


Indeed page 171 with one word out of 304 pages is 
sufficient to accuse and condemn!!!!!!!
Where are we going????????? Some call this 
unbiased!!!!

Marc Piel

Le 10/06/14 21:13, James Gifford a écrit :
> The public school behaviour is pretty explicitly 
> named in /Pied Piper of Lovers/: "sodomy" 
> (171).  He's also quite explicit in not 
> disparaging it (120, 219, 220) while at the same 
> time saying it wasn't to his autobiographical 
> protagonist's particular taste (120).  In 
> essence, this is why I disagree over the issue 
> of Durrell's being "repressed" about 
> homosexuality -- I see him as being pretty 
> comfortable with the range of sexualities any 
> individual aligns with at one time or another 
> (though a case study of repression appears in a 
> very cheeky form in /The Black Book/).
>
> Does the "frolicking around" make us rethink 
> Darley gazing on Keats's "newly god-like body" 
> while he showers?  I'd be inclined to see Darley 
> not as a repressing his homosexuality but rather 
> as being quite comfortable with the homoerotic 
> elements of his heterosexual identity.
>
> In essence, that's why "bisexual love" is so 
> important to the Quartet in my reading -- it's 
> everywhere in the book, including the stylistic 
> level.
>
> All best,
> James
>
> On 2014-06-10, 11:35 AM, Bruce Redwine wrote:
>> Now that you've brought it up.  I supposed 
>> everyone has his/her notions
>> of what amusing behavior is, especially in the 
>> context of boys
>> frolicking around after probably too much 
>> wine.  Artemis Cooper seems to
>> be describing some kind of public school 
>> frolic.  I do, however, find it
>> strange to have Durrell described as holding 
>> "the victim's [Paddy's]
>> penis," if accurate.  On the other hand, maybe 
>> this is what went on in
>> the public schools around this time — all in 
>> complete innocence.  Cooper
>> describes Leigh Fermor and Fielding as 
>> "brothers-in-arms," which they
>> were on Crete and "friends ever after."  This 
>> is a fine example of male
>> bonding in the military.  Had the U.S. soldiers 
>> of this period been
>> photographed engaging in such horseplay, 
>> however, a charge of
>> homosexuality could have been brought (possibly 
>> resulting in dismissal
>> from the service).  But we Americans are a 
>> bunch of prudes.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Lee Sternthal 
>> <lalexsternthal at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lalexsternthal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> i think in order to find what you're looking 
>>> for it sounds like you're
>>> making the case that you'd have to look for it 
>>> in friends and
>>> associates' correspondence, journals and 
>>> accounts.  and that does
>>> sound like the way to go.  but this episode 
>>> recorded by Fermur sounds
>>> more amusing than erotic.  i think i'd 
>>> probably also be a bit more
>>> intrigued if the owner of the "victim's penis" 
>>> hadn't been
>>> married/with his wife Joan for nearly 60 years 
>>> before she passed.
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Bruce Redwine 
>>> <bredwine1968 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:bredwine1968 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David, I'd like to see Joan's photograph of 
>>>> the tableau at the
>>>> sacrificial altar.  It's not in Cooper's 
>>>> book, although a photo of a
>>>> naked Xan atop a column is.  Aside from the 
>>>> work done by his editor,
>>>> Durrell himself edited a lot out of his 
>>>> island books. Probably for
>>>> reasons of privacy and confidentiality.  He 
>>>> does, however, seem to
>>>> allude to private matters.  E.g., the 
>>>> beginning of /Bitter Lemons/
>>>> and the colors of Venice described as though 
>>>> "stricken by dementia."
>>>>  Why dementia?  Well, prior to Venice he'd 
>>>> been visiting Eve in a
>>>> hospital in Germany where she was being 
>>>> treated for schizophrenia.
>>>>  Michael Haag has a lot of say about this 
>>>> kind of thing. Durrell
>>>> writes in code.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Denise Tart & 
>>>> David Green
>>>> <dtart at bigpond.net.au 
>>>> <mailto:dtart at bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "After a few days on Santorini they went to 
>>>>> Rhodes, where Lawrence
>>>>> Durrell was living with his second wife, Eve 
>>>>> Cohen, in the Villa
>>>>> Cleobolus..'It was an amazing sojourn, spent 
>>>>> in talk and music and
>>>>> feasting, ' wrote Paddy. 'Strange things 
>>>>> always happened in his
>>>>> company and one afternoon, in the ruins of 
>>>>> ancient Camirus, wine
>>>>> sprung curiosity set the four of us crawling 
>>>>> on hands and knees
>>>>> through the bat-infested warren of 
>>>>> underground conduits. We climbed
>>>>> out covered in droppings and dust and 
>>>>> cobwebs...
>>>>> With their clothes so torn and filthy, it 
>>>>> seemed like a good idea to
>>>>> take them off. They walked on naked and came 
>>>>> across a stone that
>>>>> looked just like a sacrificial altar. A 
>>>>> tableau was made,
>>>>> photographed by Joan: paddy lay across the 
>>>>> stone and Larry held the
>>>>> sacrificial victim's penis, while beetle 
>>>>> browed Xan wielded an
>>>>> enormous knife. Then, still naked, they 
>>>>> walked along the top of a
>>>>> high wall (where Xan) struck an Eros pose, 
>>>>> immortalised in another
>>>>> photo by Joan whom Durrell described as 'The 
>>>>> Corn Goddess'. As for
>>>>> Paddy he was described as 'a wonderful mad 
>>>>> Irishman... quite the
>>>>> most enchanting maniac I've ever met'."
>>>>> From Patrick Leigh Fermor: an Adventure by 
>>>>> Artemis Cooper (2012)
>>>>> Thought this might amuse/delight/intrigue in 
>>>>> the light of recent
>>>>> discussions. By the way, Durrell's own 
>>>>> island book are remarkably
>>>>> devoid such such escapades and sexuality. 
>>>>> Indeed apart from vague
>>>>> implications and polite descriptions 
>>>>> Durrell's island books are
>>>>> quite sexless, unlike the biggies. Perhaps a 
>>>>> carefully edited
>>>>> version of himself..
>>>>> David
>>>>> 16 William Street
>>>>> Marrickville NSW 2204
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> +61 2 9564 6165
>>>>> 0412 707 625
>>>>> www.denisetart.com.au 
>>>>> <http://www.denisetart.com.au/>
>>>>
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