From rpinecorfu at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 03:07:07 2011 From: rpinecorfu at yahoo.com (Richard Pine) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ilds] what is a cunard? In-Reply-To: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com> <4E08E8CA.9070407@gmail.com> <4E08F254.4000101@marcpiel.fr> <4E09E194.5030607@utc.edu> , <1312614987.3734.YahooMailNeo@web65809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC87479F@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu>, <1312707162.64804.YahooMailNeo@web65801.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> Message-ID: <1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Bill, you would be a marvellous performer in the witness box. Although the four statements below are 'facts', at no point have you actually committed yourself to stating that you were on that ship at that time, with or without the Irish lady, whose well I remember. I like the idea of Scythia being broken up. It must have been a very emotional experience for Clyde. Was she also dismantled? i.e. was her cloak removed? RP From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" To: Richard Pine ; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? The ship was called the Scythia. She was on her last voyage, and was broken up on the Clyde. The years was 1957. I did not know about Larry and Justine. I was studying at St. Andrews in Scotland. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English? ? *? ? ? ? ? * University of Cincinnati*? * Stellar Disorder? * OH 45221-0069 *? * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? ambiguous again Bill. Yes, I remember her well. RP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" To: Richard Pine ; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I was sailing with Jean Reid Smith -- a lovely Irish girl. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English? ? *? ? ? ? ? * University of Cincinnati*? * Stellar Disorder? * OH 45221-0069 *? * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:16 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? Note that Godshalk says he is old enough to have.... But he doesn't actually say that he did sail... - does he claim to have done so? What are facts and what are inferences? RP From: William Godshalk > To: charles-sligh at utc.edu; ilds at lists.uvic.ca Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I'm old enough to have sailed from New York to Liverpool on a Cunard. Bill _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.uvic.ca/pipermail/ilds/attachments/20110808/65787dd4/attachment.html From bredwine1968 at earthlink.net Mon Aug 8 10:19:34 2011 From: bredwine1968 at earthlink.net (Bruce Redwine) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:19:34 -0700 Subject: [ilds] what is a cunard? In-Reply-To: <1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com> <4E08E8CA.9070407@gmail.com> <4E08F254.4000101@marcpiel.fr> <4E09E194.5030607@utc.edu> , <1312614987.3734.YahooMailNeo@web65809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC87479F@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu>, <1312707162.64804.YahooMailNeo@web65801.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B2BA6E6-C0CB-428B-8982-981AFF166EAE@earthlink.net> Bill lives between the lines, a true follower of Lawrence Durrell. Bruce On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Richard Pine wrote: > Bill, you would be a marvellous performer in the witness box. Although the four statements below are 'facts', at no point have you actually committed yourself to stating that you were on that ship at that time, with or without the Irish lady, whose well I remember. I like the idea of Scythia being broken up. It must have been a very emotional experience for Clyde. Was she also dismantled? i.e. was her cloak removed? RP > > From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine ; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:11 AM > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > The ship was called the Scythia. She was on her last voyage, and was broken up on the Clyde. > > The years was 1957. > > I did not know about Larry and Justine. > > I was studying at St. Andrews in Scotland. > > > W. L. Godshalk * > Department of English * * > University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * > OH 45221-0069 * * > ________________________________________ > From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 AM > To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > ambiguous again Bill. > Yes, I remember her well. > RP > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine ; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > I was sailing with Jean Reid Smith -- a lovely Irish girl. > > > > W. L. Godshalk * > Department of English * * > University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * > OH 45221-0069 * * > ________________________________________ > From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:16 AM > To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > Note that Godshalk says he is old enough to have.... But he doesn't actually say that he did sail... - does he claim to have done so? What are facts and what are inferences? > RP > > From: William Godshalk > > To: charles-sligh at utc.edu; ilds at lists.uvic.ca > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 5:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > I'm old enough to have sailed from New York to Liverpool on a Cunard. > > Bill > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ILDS mailing list > ILDS at lists.uvic.ca > https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds > > _______________________________________________ > ILDS mailing list > ILDS at lists.uvic.ca > https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds > > > _______________________________________________ > ILDS mailing list > ILDS at lists.uvic.ca > https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.uvic.ca/pipermail/ilds/attachments/20110808/6d761b0c/attachment.html From godshawl at ucmail.uc.edu Mon Aug 8 16:25:08 2011 From: godshawl at ucmail.uc.edu (Godshalk, William (godshawl)) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 19:25:08 -0400 Subject: [ilds] what is a cunard? In-Reply-To: <4B2BA6E6-C0CB-428B-8982-981AFF166EAE@earthlink.net> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com> <4E08E8CA.9070407@gmail.com> <4E08F254.4000101@marcpiel.fr> <4E09E194.5030607@utc.edu> , <1312614987.3734.YahooMailNeo@web65809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC87479F@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu>, <1312707162.64804.YahooMailNeo@web65801.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <4B2BA6E6-C0CB-428B-8982-981AFF166EAE@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A8@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> The lady in question was lovely. She was a little thing, and had to stand on my toes on tip toes to kiss. As long as I can remember -- it remains real -- right? W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Bruce Redwine [bredwine1968 at earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: Richard Pine; ilds at lists.uvic.ca Cc: Bruce Redwine Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? Bill lives between the lines, a true follower of Lawrence Durrell. Bruce On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Richard Pine wrote: Bill, you would be a marvellous performer in the witness box. Although the four statements below are 'facts', at no point have you actually committed yourself to stating that you were on that ship at that time, with or without the Irish lady, whose well I remember. I like the idea of Scythia being broken up. It must have been a very emotional experience for Clyde. Was she also dismantled? i.e. was her cloak removed? RP From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? The ship was called the Scythia. She was on her last voyage, and was broken up on the Clyde. The years was 1957. I did not know about Larry and Justine. I was studying at St. Andrews in Scotland. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? ambiguous again Bill. Yes, I remember her well. RP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I was sailing with Jean Reid Smith -- a lovely Irish girl. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca

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>] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com>] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:16 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? Note that Godshalk says he is old enough to have.... But he doesn't actually say that he did sail... - does he claim to have done so? What are facts and what are inferences? RP From: William Godshalk >> To: charles-sligh at utc.edu

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>] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com>] > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:16 AM > To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca> > Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? > > Note that Godshalk says he is old enough to have.... But he doesn't actually say that he did sail... - does he claim to have done so? What are facts and what are inferences? > RP > > From: William Godshalk>> > To: charles-sligh at utc.edu

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URL: http://lists.uvic.ca/pipermail/ilds/attachments/20110808/98680645/attachment.html From bredwine1968 at earthlink.net Tue Aug 9 12:19:14 2011 From: bredwine1968 at earthlink.net (Bruce Redwine) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:19:14 -0700 Subject: [ilds] heraldic universe In-Reply-To: <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com>, <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C189@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <619C779F-38D0-461A-826C-51FD27C0573B@earthlink.net> <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry if I'm repeating myself. Is Durrell's essay "The Heraldic Universe" available anywhere else besides vol. 1, no. 4 (1942) of the Cairo publication, Personal Landscape? Is there a pdf document of this essay anywhere? I'd like to see it. Also, how do I cite it, besides referring to the obscure Cairo periodical? Thanks. Bruce On Jun 28, 2011, at 7:49 AM, James Gifford wrote: > On 27/06/11 7:42 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: >> I first came across Durrell's idea in the D-M >> letters, the one previously mentioned, August or Fall of 1936. Did >> he ever publish this theory/philosophy? > > I'll leave Mott to Bill, but for Durrell publishing on the Heraldic > Universe, the answer is "kinda"... > > He published "The Heraldic Universe" in /Personal Landscape/ (1942), > where he states "It is not a 'state of mind.'" There were other bits > and pieces in his prose, but it was certainly not systematized. Then > again, the opening of /Personal Landscape/ and its "Ideas on Poetry" > series stated quite emphatically that it would not systematize and that > ideas are subject to change in discussion. I think that's actually > rather the point. > > He comes back to it across his letters as well. Now off to the train! > > Best, > J > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.uvic.ca/pipermail/ilds/attachments/20110809/559cde69/attachment.html From james.d.gifford at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 12:27:16 2011 From: james.d.gifford at gmail.com (James Gifford) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:27:16 -0700 Subject: [ilds] heraldic universe In-Reply-To: References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com>, <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C189@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <619C779F-38D0-461A-826C-51FD27C0573B@earthlink.net> <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E418A14.60302@gmail.com> It's also reprinted in Robin Fedden's book /Personal Landscape/, which isn't too hard to dig up here & there (I don't recall if it's credited to Durrell or not in the book, but it is in the original journal, at least to L.D.): Fedden, Robin. Ed. /Personal Landscape: An Anthology of Exile/. London: Editions Poetry London, 1945. Watch for a new trade edition of Durrell's essays next year as well, which will contain it. Cheers, James On 09/08/11 12:19 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: > Sorry if I'm repeating myself. Is Durrell's essay "The Heraldic > Universe" available anywhere else besides vol. 1, no. 4 (1942) of the > Cairo publication, /Personal Landscape?/ Is there a pdf document of this > essay anywhere? I'd like to see it. Also, how do I cite it, besides > referring to the obscure Cairo periodical? Thanks. > > > Bruce > > > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 7:49 AM, James Gifford wrote: > >> On 27/06/11 7:42 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: >>> I first came across Durrell's idea in the D-M >>> letters, the one previously mentioned, August or Fall of 1936. Did >>> he ever publish this theory/philosophy? >> >> I'll leave Mott to Bill, but for Durrell publishing on the Heraldic >> Universe, the answer is "kinda"... >> >> He published "The Heraldic Universe" in /Personal Landscape/ (1942), >> where he states "It is not a 'state of mind.'" There were other bits >> and pieces in his prose, but it was certainly not systematized. Then >> again, the opening of /Personal Landscape/ and its "Ideas on Poetry" >> series stated quite emphatically that it would not systematize and that >> ideas are subject to change in discussion. I think that's actually >> rather the point. >> >> He comes back to it across his letters as well. Now off to the train! >> >> Best, >> J >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > ILDS mailing list > ILDS at lists.uvic.ca > https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds From bredwine1968 at earthlink.net Tue Aug 9 12:34:19 2011 From: bredwine1968 at earthlink.net (Bruce Redwine) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:34:19 -0700 Subject: [ilds] heraldic universe In-Reply-To: <4E418A14.60302@gmail.com> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com>, <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C189@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <619C779F-38D0-461A-826C-51FD27C0573B@earthlink.net> <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> <4E418A14.60302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2647A328-737D-4D55-B2F7-F771F58DCEAC@earthlink.net> James, thanks. I think I can find the Fedden book in the UCB Library. The trade edition of Durrell's essays is greatly needed. I assume you're editing it. Good work. Bruce On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:27 PM, James Gifford wrote: > It's also reprinted in Robin Fedden's book /Personal Landscape/, which > isn't too hard to dig up here & there (I don't recall if it's credited > to Durrell or not in the book, but it is in the original journal, at > least to L.D.): > > Fedden, Robin. Ed. /Personal Landscape: An Anthology of Exile/. London: > Editions Poetry London, 1945. > > Watch for a new trade edition of Durrell's essays next year as well, > which will contain it. > > Cheers, > James > > On 09/08/11 12:19 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: >> Sorry if I'm repeating myself. Is Durrell's essay "The Heraldic >> Universe" available anywhere else besides vol. 1, no. 4 (1942) of the >> Cairo publication, /Personal Landscape?/ Is there a pdf document of this >> essay anywhere? I'd like to see it. Also, how do I cite it, besides >> referring to the obscure Cairo periodical? Thanks. >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2011, at 7:49 AM, James Gifford wrote: >> >>> On 27/06/11 7:42 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: >>>> I first came across Durrell's idea in the D-M >>>> letters, the one previously mentioned, August or Fall of 1936. Did >>>> he ever publish this theory/philosophy? >>> >>> I'll leave Mott to Bill, but for Durrell publishing on the Heraldic >>> Universe, the answer is "kinda"... >>> >>> He published "The Heraldic Universe" in /Personal Landscape/ (1942), >>> where he states "It is not a 'state of mind.'" There were other bits >>> and pieces in his prose, but it was certainly not systematized. Then >>> again, the opening of /Personal Landscape/ and its "Ideas on Poetry" >>> series stated quite emphatically that it would not systematize and that >>> ideas are subject to change in discussion. I think that's actually >>> rather the point. >>> >>> He comes back to it across his letters as well. Now off to the train! >>> >>> Best, >>> J From godshawl at ucmail.uc.edu Tue Aug 9 12:36:47 2011 From: godshawl at ucmail.uc.edu (Godshalk, William (godshawl)) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:36:47 -0400 Subject: [ilds] Durrell on nursery rhymes? Message-ID: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747B5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> I seem to remember Durrell writing about nursery rhymes and perhaps folktales. But I can't run down any reference. Can anyone help me out -- even with a negative. Bill From james.d.gifford at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 12:42:03 2011 From: james.d.gifford at gmail.com (James Gifford) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:42:03 -0700 Subject: [ilds] heraldic universe In-Reply-To: <2647A328-737D-4D55-B2F7-F771F58DCEAC@earthlink.net> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com>, <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C189@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <619C779F-38D0-461A-826C-51FD27C0573B@earthlink.net> <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> <4E418A14.60302@gmail.com> <2647A328-737D-4D55-B2F7-F771F58DCEAC@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4E418D8B.60900@gmail.com> On 09/08/11 12:34 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: > I think I can find the Fedden book in the UCB Library. Before you make a trip, I'll check my copy at home tonight to make sure I'm not thinking of the "Ideas About Poetry" he contributed to the first issue. I'm pretty sure the Fedden book has both pieces. They relate nicely. -J From bredwine1968 at earthlink.net Tue Aug 9 12:54:46 2011 From: bredwine1968 at earthlink.net (Bruce Redwine) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:54:46 -0700 Subject: [ilds] heraldic universe In-Reply-To: <4E418D8B.60900@gmail.com> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com>, <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C189@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <619C779F-38D0-461A-826C-51FD27C0573B@earthlink.net> <4E09E9E5.9060404@gmail.com> <4E418A14.60302@gmail.com> <2647A328-737D-4D55-B2F7-F771F58DCEAC@earthlink.net> <4E418D8B.60900@gmail.com> Message-ID: James, I'll probably made a trip to the UCB library sometime this week or next. At that time, I'll look for your material. Bruce On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:42 PM, James Gifford wrote: > On 09/08/11 12:34 PM, Bruce Redwine wrote: >> I think I can find the Fedden book in the UCB Library. > > Before you make a trip, I'll check my copy at home tonight to make sure > I'm not thinking of the "Ideas About Poetry" he contributed to the first > issue. I'm pretty sure the Fedden book has both pieces. They relate > nicely. > > -J From bredwine1968 at earthlink.net Tue Aug 9 14:05:13 2011 From: bredwine1968 at earthlink.net (Bruce Redwine) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:05:13 -0700 Subject: [ilds] Durrell on nursery rhymes? In-Reply-To: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747B5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747B5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> Message-ID: Negative. I did a cursory check of Brigham's Checklist (which cuts off at 1983) and couldn't find anything suggestive of your topic. But I wouldn't be surprised if he wrote on the subject, somewhere. If you find it, I'd like to see the cite. By the way, Brigham's work is marvelous, although it could benefit from a good subject index. BR On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Godshalk, William (godshawl) wrote: > I seem to remember Durrell writing about nursery rhymes and perhaps folktales. > > But I can't run down any reference. > > Can anyone help me out -- even with a negative. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > ILDS mailing list > ILDS at lists.uvic.ca > https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.uvic.ca/pipermail/ilds/attachments/20110809/edfe8873/attachment.html From no-reply at wordpress.com Wed Aug 10 04:49:23 2011 From: no-reply at wordpress.com (Durrell 2012: The Lawrence Durrell Centenary.) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:49:23 +0000 Subject: [ilds] [New post] "I Wanted to Write a Quartet": Joanna Kavenna Gives a Nod to Lawrence Durrell (1 August 2011). Message-ID: <9c866545a78565c95d1e0946f86f9a42@wordpress.com> Post : "I Wanted to Write a Quartet": Joanna Kavenna Gives a Nod to Lawrence Durrell (1 August 2011). URL : http://durrell2012.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/i-wanted-to-write-a-quartet-joanna-kavenna-gives-a-nod-to-lawrence-durrell-1-august-2011/ Posted : 10 August 2011 at 11:49 Author : durrell2012 Tags : Joanna Kavenna, Lawrence Durrell, The Alexandria Quartet Categories : Durrell in the News, Joanna Kavenna, Lawrence Durrell, The Alexandria Quartet In The Birth of Love (Faber 2010), Joanna Kavenna sought to fashion a novel in which reality was "entirely inflected by the altered concerns of a woman who is in labour." That ideal demanded the discovery of a storytelling form capable of conveying the disorienting immediacy and fragmentary, dreamlike irreality 0f the birth experience.? 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In-Reply-To: <7455A3C5-333D-403F-B106-9F285CCF03FE@earthlink.net> References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu><4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com><4E08E8CA.9070407@gmail.com> <4E08F254.4000101@marcpiel.fr><4E09E194.5030607@utc.edu>, <1312614987.3734.YahooMailNeo@web65809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC87479F@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu>, <1312707162.64804.YahooMailNeo@web65801.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu><1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <4B2BA6E6-C0CB-428B-8982-981AFF166EAE@earthlink.net><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A8@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu> <7455A3C5-333D-403F-B106-9F285CCF03FE@earthlink.net> Message-ID: ..........sounds nice but seem to me mysterious comments....... ACtually: would anybody be interested to get a little exhibition together for next years Durell Meeting lets say about how we got to love reading Durell or anything else. A little collage as a private fine art painter would be my part in it. Mit freundlichen Gr??en Christine Tr?bner www.aelterwerden-in-frankfurt.de christine.truebner at stadt-frankfurt.de **************************** Bitte vormerken: 23.08.2011* Kunstprojekt - "Ihr Bild f?r Krakau" Vernissage um 14 Uhr zu ?lterwerden - W?nsche, Hoffnung, Tr?ume im Rathaus f?r Senioren und im Cafe Anschluss Hansaallee 150 am 23.August um 14:00h mit der Sozialdezernentin Prof. Dr. Daniela Birkenfeld * Die Ausstellung ist nach der Vernissage noch bis zum 30. September werktags von 10 bis 15h zu sehen. Weitere Informationen finden Sie auf unserer Internetseite www.aelterwerden-in-frankfurt.de ________________________________ Von: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] Im Auftrag von Bruce Redwine Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2011 02:42 An: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Cc: Bruce Redwine Betreff: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? As real as Martine in Sicilian Carousel. On Aug 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Godshalk, William (godshawl) wrote: The lady in question was lovely. She was a little thing, and had to stand on my toes on tip toes to kiss. As long as I can remember -- it remains real -- right? W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Bruce Redwine [bredwine1968 at earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: Richard Pine; ilds at lists.uvic.ca Cc: Bruce Redwine Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? Bill lives between the lines, a true follower of Lawrence Durrell. Bruce On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Richard Pine wrote: Bill, you would be a marvellous performer in the witness box. Although the four statements below are 'facts', at no point have you actually committed yourself to stating that you were on that ship at that time, with or without the Irish lady, whose well I remember. I like the idea of Scythia being broken up. It must have been a very emotional experience for Clyde. Was she also dismantled? i.e. was her cloak removed? RP From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? The ship was called the Scythia. She was on her last voyage, and was broken up on the Clyde. The years was 1957. I did not know about Larry and Justine. I was studying at St. Andrews in Scotland. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? ambiguous again Bill. Yes, I remember her well. RP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I was sailing with Jean Reid Smith -- a lovely Irish girl. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca

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>; ilds at lists.uvic.ca> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I'm old enough to have sailed from New York to Liverpool on a Cunard. Bill _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca> https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds _______________________________________________ ILDS mailing list ILDS at lists.uvic.ca https://lists.uvic.ca/mailman/listinfo/ilds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtart at bigpond.net.au Thu Aug 11 13:56:38 2011 From: dtart at bigpond.net.au (Denise Tart & David Green) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:56:38 +1000 Subject: [ilds] from cunards to canards to wine and olives In-Reply-To: References: <94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3E219C185@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu><4E07FE3C.70105@gmail.com><4E08E8CA.9070407@gmail.com><4E08F254.4000101@marcpiel.fr><4E09E194.5030607@utc.edu>, <1312614987.3734.YahooMailNeo@web65809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC87479F@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu>, <1312707162.64804.YahooMailNeo@web65801.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A5@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu><1312798027.85653.YahooMailNeo@web65817.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, <4B2BA6E6-C0CB-428B-8982-981AFF166EAE@earthlink.net><94B18F18BF859846A11A82A6166B6C4201F3EC8747A8@UCMAILBE2.ad.uc.edu><7455A3C5-333D-403F-B106-9F285CCF03FE@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8412423312BD4278B3E81E3608690F86@DenisePC> Yes, and some photos of the old rascal, and Oscar Epfs paintings and Brett Whitley's Justine ! well a poster or copy anyway Durrell himself was a little collage, what! Also Renata could bring a selection of the wines he like to drink and we could all hook into that while eating kalamata olives and dolmades. In researve R W Hedges will have several cases of Aussie chardonnay from Oddbin's which he needs to shift and we can all get merry and recite poetry and sing songs and pontificate; mmm sound like Friday Night at the Golden Barley in Enmore! Quelle maleur! David Whitewine 16 William Street Marrickville NSW 2204 +61 2 9564 6165 0412 707 625 www.denisetart.com.au From: Truebner, Christine Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:07 PM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? ..........sounds nice but seem to me mysterious comments....... ACtually: would anybody be interested to get a little exhibition together for next years Durell Meeting lets say about how we got to love reading Durell or anything else. A little collage as a private fine art painter would be my part in it. Mit freundlichen Gr??en Christine Tr?bner www.aelterwerden-in-frankfurt.de christine.truebner at stadt-frankfurt.de **************************** Bitte vormerken: 23.08.2011* Kunstprojekt - "Ihr Bild f?r Krakau" Vernissage um 14 Uhr zu ?lterwerden - W?nsche, Hoffnung, Tr?ume im Rathaus f?r Senioren und im Cafe Anschluss Hansaallee 150 am 23.August um 14:00h mit der Sozialdezernentin Prof. Dr. Daniela Birkenfeld * Die Ausstellung ist nach der Vernissage noch bis zum 30. September werktags von 10 bis 15h zu sehen. Weitere Informationen finden Sie auf unserer Internetseite www.aelterwerden-in-frankfurt.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Von: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [mailto:ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] Im Auftrag von Bruce Redwine Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2011 02:42 An: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Cc: Bruce Redwine Betreff: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? As real as Martine in Sicilian Carousel. On Aug 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Godshalk, William (godshawl) wrote: The lady in question was lovely. She was a little thing, and had to stand on my toes on tip toes to kiss. As long as I can remember -- it remains real -- right? W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Bruce Redwine [bredwine1968 at earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:19 PM To: Richard Pine; ilds at lists.uvic.ca Cc: Bruce Redwine Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? Bill lives between the lines, a true follower of Lawrence Durrell. Bruce On Aug 8, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Richard Pine wrote: Bill, you would be a marvellous performer in the witness box. Although the four statements below are 'facts', at no point have you actually committed yourself to stating that you were on that ship at that time, with or without the Irish lady, whose well I remember. I like the idea of Scythia being broken up. It must have been a very emotional experience for Clyde. Was she also dismantled? i.e. was her cloak removed? RP From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? The ship was called the Scythia. She was on her last voyage, and was broken up on the Clyde. The years was 1957. I did not know about Larry and Justine. I was studying at St. Andrews in Scotland. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Pine [rpinecorfu at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 AM To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? ambiguous again Bill. Yes, I remember her well. RP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godshalk, William (godshawl)" > To: Richard Pine >; "ilds at lists.uvic.ca" > Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [ilds] what is a cunard? I was sailing with Jean Reid Smith -- a lovely Irish girl. W. L. Godshalk * Department of English * * University of Cincinnati* * Stellar Disorder * OH 45221-0069 * * ________________________________________ From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca

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