[ilds] Pastoral Literature
Denise Tart & David Green
dtart at bigpond.net.au
Sun Mar 6 12:11:38 PST 2011
The
life of the village seems more creative with the city as a burst of
libidinal energy best enjoyed but not lived in.
Which explains James perhaps why Durrell became a villager in Provence, the
place of writing, with the odd spree in the city; not a bad way to live -
fact thinking about it for myself!
David
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From: "James Gifford" <james.d.gifford at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [ilds] Pastoral Literature
> I almost think this is the point -- one isn't supposed to come back to
> the city... I've always like the tension in the epigrams to Justine
> between "talk" and "desire," one leading to the island to writing and
> the other to the noose. I think that plays out across the Quartet as a
> whole as well: the island is the place of writing (talk) and
> subjectivity while the city is the place where subjectivity is lost and
> everyone becomes the object of the city's will or their own desires.
>
> Is the same thing happening in /The Black Book/, /Panic Spring/,
> /Cefalu/, /Monsieur/, and so forth? I have a hunch it is. We get the
> same thing with time as well -- the island has rural time measured in
> cycles or cigarettes while the city is on a teleological path to war,
> like in the opening scenes of /Clea/.
>
> I think he's fairly clear in using the Classical sources for the idea,
> but there's no return to the city or to city man that can go well. The
> life of the village seems more creative with the city as a burst of
> libidinal energy best enjoyed but not lived in.
>
> Best,
> James
>
> On 06/03/11 8:04 AM, Bruce Redwine wrote:
>> Yes. And how does Lawrence Durrell use the Classical/Renaissance
>> convention of pastoral? How does he rework it? What's new about his
>> usage? He goes to his various islands and retreats, real and fictional,
>> in search of otium, but he does not come back "cured and happy."
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:53 PM, William Godshalk wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, and in the Renaissance, the pastoral world is in contrast to the
>>> urban world. Characters from the city or the court go into the
>>> pastoral world to seek and to find redemption, love, otium. It's a
>>> world of artistic development. After finding what they were looking
>>> for, they can go back to the city or court -- cured and happy.
>>>
>>> Consider Shakespeare's /As You Like It /with its forest of Arden.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Denise Tart & David Green
>>> <dtart at bigpond.net.au <mailto:dtart at bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bruce, I like the idea of the island books being a kind of modern
>>> pastoral. I can see it: the poet and his friend amidst a rustic
>>> background discussing the great issues (Prospero's Cell
>>> particularly) and the philosophical peasants in place of the
>>> shepherds - 'where the shepherd is the artist and the goats make
>>> music with the wind' to quote RW Hedges. certainly a fair number
>>> of Larry's beloved Elizabethans wrote pastorals and this could
>>> have influenced him very much. Perhaps this explains the timeless
>>> unreality of Prospero's Cell - indeed much of Durrell's writing.
>>> To be honest the man is his own genre.
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>>
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