[ilds] ILDS Digest, Vol 47, Issue 11_Durrell remarks_Le Figaro

James Gifford james.d.gifford at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 08:55:21 PST 2011

I suspect #1 & #2 won't lead to much productive discussion.  However, as 
an aside, I think it's perfectly legitimate to post en français.  It's 
true many won't be able to follow and fewer will respond, mais tant pis! 
  The list doesn't officiate over languages!  The membership is quite 
international as well.

I disagree profoundly with Bruce's interpretations of "Loeb's Horace," 
and I do so based on the mss., but I would look forward to the 
discussion of point #3.


On 12/02/11 8:50 AM, Bruce Redwine wrote:
> Marc,
> More comments.
> 1.  As has been the case of late, you don't know what you're talking about.
> 2.  Sumantra's request is quite reasonable.  If you want to post something in French, then you should provide a translation.  I would guess a large number of the listeners on this list don't know your language.
> 3.  Have you read "Bitter Lemons" and "Loeb's Horace?"  I would like to hear your opinion about those two poems.
> Bruce
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Marc Piel wrote:
>> Hello Sumantra,
>> 1. I agree that criticism is useful, but real
>> critique also shows the positive, otherwise it
>> leads to nothing!
>> 2. You can try a Google translation. They, at
>> worst give you a general gist of the subject and
>> at best, can be quite good.
>> B.R.
>> Marc
>> Le 12/02/11 07:42, Sumantra Nag a écrit :
>>> 1. On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Marc Piel wrote:
>>> Bruce, Perhaps you should start your own forum entitled "Against Lawrence
>>> Durrell - or how to discredit one of the most creative authors of the last
>>> 60 years". This is not to be taken as aggressive. Just a "just" reaction to
>>> your systematic negative
>>> remarks whenever someone defends the talent and acknowledgement of LD.
>>> Marc
>>> 2.
>>> http://www.lefigaro.fr/voyages/2010/11/06/03007-20101106ARTFIG00008-l-alexandrie-de-lawrence-durrell-encore-et-toujours.php
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> Marc,
>>> 1. Without wishing to intercede where I probably should not, may I only
>>> submit my own perception of the cumulative substance that I have seen in the
>>> contributions from Bruce. On the whole and also in terms of individual
>>> observations and comments, they don't seem to discredit  Lawrence Durrell.
>>> On the contrary there appears to be a good deal of critical appreciation if
>>> you take all the discussions. If a writer's literary reputation is to be
>>> supported at any time, even at times of relative indifference, a critical
>>> approach appears to be valuable. This may at times entail the attachment of
>>> variable values to different works from the author, or even to his conduct,
>>> without detracting from the core achievements. Again, I'm sorry if I am
>>> neglecting certain aspects of your exchanges while making these judgements.
>>> 2. I opened the link to the article from Le Figaro and it promised to be
>>> very interesting. Alas! I can't follow it in French. I don't suppose there
>>> is an English version of it. It would be of great interest to me but I
>>> suppose there is no reason why those without a knowledge of French should
>>> expect to be treated to an English translation!
>>> Regards
>>> Sumantra
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