[ilds] Ray, Patrick, Bruce and others

Godshalk, William (godshawl) godshawl at ucmail.uc.edu
Mon Nov 1 16:25:10 PDT 2010


How long is the dissertation? Can you email it as a document? May we request a copy?


W. L. Godshalk *
Department of English    *           *
University of Cincinnati*   * Stellar Disorder  *
OH 45221-0069 *  *
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From: ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca [ilds-bounces at lists.uvic.ca] On Behalf Of James Gifford [james.d.gifford at gmail.com]
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I should add, Richtofen's dissertation is extremely fine work, though I
do disagree with some points akin to Bruce's quibbles.  As for Durrell's
"essentially conservative" nature, I've argued against that rather strongly:

http://inscribe.iupress.org/doi/abs/10.2979/JML.2010.33.4.57

I signed an agreement not to post a copy to a listserv, but I'm free to
share with colleagues for academic purposes...

Cheers,
James

On 01/11/10 11:46 AM, Bruce Redwine wrote:
> Bill and Charles,
>
> I'm not one to make fun of family names — you live with what you've got
> — but Patrick von Richtofen's does cause me to pause and recall "The Red
> Baron." Could this mean something? I won't speculate. Anyway, I have
> /DL,/ vol. IV, no. 2 (in red cover, no less), which contains von
> Richtofen's "Lawrence Durrell, Prince of Denmark." I see that Charles is
> much quicker to the draw than I am and has already provided the relevant
> passages.
>
> Von Richthofen identifies Middleton's /Blacke Book/ as a source for
> Durrell's /Black Book/ and makes an interesting comment about Lucifer
> and the preeminent sin of pride — the very first and most important of
> the Seven Deadlies, the one that subsumes all the others — and its
> relevance to LD himself. I think he's right. Durrell's book reeks of
> pride, his own, his literary presumptuousness, sin or not. I question,
> however, the observation about "Durrell's essentially conservative
> literary and historical outlook" re the Elizabethans. My very limited
> sense of Durrell's love of the Elizabethans is that he admired the
> openness and wildness of that society — /_not_/ that 16th century
> England is a mirror for 20th century English vices. There I think he's
> wrong. I don't see Durrell ever turning his nose at a brothel. Godshalk
> and Pine can best weigh in on this subject.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Charles Sligh wrote:
>
>> On 11/1/10 1:39 PM, Godshalk, William (godshawl) wrote:
>>
>>>         Ray Morrison got his information from  Deus Loci 4 (1980) 3-11, in an essay by Patrick von  Richtofen.
>>
>> Happy to oblige, Bill. See attached pdf, for which I have scanned only
>> those pages making reference to Middleton & Durrell.
>>
>> The remainder of Richtofen's piece treats /Tropic of Cancer/ and the
>> /Hamlet/ letters, but not Middleton's /Blacke Booke/. This seems an
>> opportunity missed.
>>
>> In my opinion, you have plenty of work to do on /The Black Book/ and
>> /The Blacke Booke/, Bill. You know Shakespeare, Middleton,
>> Elizabethiana, &c. better than anyone else with a working knowledge of
>> Durrell. Go for it.
>>
>> My appreciation to the late Carol Peirce and Virginia Carruthers who
>> gifted me the full run of the Old Style /Deus Loci/.
>>
>> Charles
>> --
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>> Charles L. Sligh
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of English
>> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
>> charles-sligh at utc.edu
>> ********************************************
>
>
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