[ilds] baboonism

Bruce Redwine bredwine1968 at earthlink.net
Sun Jul 8 06:25:15 PDT 2007


Yes. I don't agree with the position that the reader creates the text or the person.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Haag <michaelhaag at btinternet.com>
>Sent: Jul 7, 2007 10:57 PM
>To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca
>Subject: Re: [ilds] baboonism
>
>Well, let's say (whatever the funny hats he may wear) that the man 
>comes through.  But it is his doing, not my invention.
>
>:Michael
>
>
>
>On Sunday, July 8, 2007, at 06:29  am, James Gifford wrote:
>
>> I think we're getting closer to articulating what we both really mean
>> here, so it's been a useful (pragmatism again...) exercise.
>>
>> You say Durrell changes but is still recongisable in his travel books 
>> (I
>> won't say "non-fiction").  That's probably more useful for both of us
>> than "always the same man" or "self with a core identity."  I doubt I
>> can access that unchanging man or core identity in myself, let along an
>> author I only know through words in a fiction book.  I'm certainly not
>> the same man I was when my first academic article was published
>> (actually, it was the first paper I wrote after I finished my 
>> undergrad,
>> with all the flaws of such a thing going to press unedited...).  A
>> changing yet recognisable cloud of potentially contradictory traits and
>> affiliations (always plural too) would seem far closer to Durrell's 
>> view
>> as well.
>>
>> But, if we aren't to trust what he says in an interview, then why 
>> should
>> we trust what we read in his books?  I think your answer will be that
>> you recognise that continuity, which I will certainly grant you and
>> admit I do as well, but isn't that something that's 'reader imminent'
>> rather than an authorial intention?
>>
>> I suppose I want to have my cake, on a plate, and eat it too -- I want
>> the author, the text, and the reader.  I get cranky when one's missing,
>> just like when my plate's empty or the cake is in my hands.  Worst of
>> all is having the cake on a plate without me there...
>>
>> Best,
>> James
>>
>> Michael Haag wrote:
>>> I am certainly not saying that Durrell remains unchanged.  He does
>>> change; he has experiences, he reflects on them, he saddens, he grows,
>>> etc; but he is still recognisably Durrell.  And what Durrell may say
>>> about human character in an interview (or in a book) does not alter
>>> that continuity that we read in his work.
>>>
>>> :Michael




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