[ilds] Freud Redux

Vittorio Celentano vcel at ix.netcom.com
Tue Jul 3 23:04:36 PDT 2007


Bruce, Beatrice Skordili amd others

Beatrice Skordili mentioned "Neuronal Man" which you can retrieve by
clicking on this link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=VNTg65xuuR4C&dq=%22jean+pierre%22+changeux+the+neuronal+man&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=VKV883LUu1&sig=2fJNbxV3ZaAW-FabPRZtHrzi_W0

Vittorio

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Redwine" <bredwine1968 at earthlink.net>
To: <ilds at lists.uvic.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ilds] Freud Redux


> Vittorio, thanks for the two pieces on Freud in Scientific American (May
2004).  (Presumably this is typical of the debate Beatrice Skordili refers
to in the 2006 issue of the same magazine.)  Everyone should read them.
These support my previous criticisms of Freud.  Mark Solms's article deals
superficially with Freudian theory, insofar as it pertains to an unconscious
mechanism and repression.  That framework of the human mind is not in
dispute.  What is, is how Freud accounts for it, the mythology, "Seduction
Theory," the real meat of Freudian analysis, and that has been shown bogus.
Solms makes no mention of this theory.  J. Allan Hobson, a professor at
Harvard, goes even further than I would in criticizing Solms's article:
"Psychoanalysis is in big trouble, and no amount of neurobiological
tinkering can fix it" (p. 89).
>
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Vittorio Celentano <vcel at ix.netcom.com>
> >Sent: Jul 2, 2007 12:08 PM
> >To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca
> >Subject: Re: [ilds] Freud Returns
> >
> >Beatrice Skordili and others,
> >
> >Attached is the article: Freud returns by Mark Solms
> >
> >Vittorio Celentano
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Beatrice Skordili" <bskordil at otenet.gr>
> >To: <ilds at lists.uvic.ca>
> >Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:20 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ilds] Freud Returns
> >
> >
> >> Marc and others,
> >>
> >> (as promised), the _Scientific American Mind_ in the April/May 2006
issue
> >> contains a whole section devoted to Freud. The article I was thinking
> >about
> >> was by Mark Solms and titled "Freud Returns" (28-34).
> >>     Also of interest might be Jean Pierre Changeux's _Neuronal Man: The
> >> Biology of the Mind_.
> >>
> >> Happy Readings,
> >>
> >> Beatrice Skordili
> >>
> >>
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