[ilds] Freud Returns

Bruce Redwine bredwine1968 at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 2 14:25:10 PDT 2007


Well, you know, the French can't help it.  Freud must have really been a Frenchman -- that has yet to come in the literature.  All that sex!

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Haag <michaelhaag at btinternet.com>
>Sent: Jul 2, 2007 2:05 PM
>To: marcpiel at interdesign.fr, ilds at lists.uvic.ca
>Subject: Re: [ilds] Freud Returns
>
>Don't be dirty, Marc.
>
>:M
>
>
>On Monday, July 2, 2007, at 09:47  pm, Marc Piel wrote:
>
>> Are you jumping into the bush again????
>> Marc
>>
>> Bruce Redwine wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't read the Scientific American issue on Freud, but, if I may 
>>> readily jump to conclusions, I suspect the articles have something to 
>>> do with neurological research proving the "existence" of an 
>>> unconscious area of the brain.  Which I have no problems with.  But 
>>> how do scientists brain-scan a myth or find the ghost in the machine? 
>>>  The myth is Freud's invention, not the fact of some unconscious 
>>> mechanism.  Over the past thirty years, historians of science have 
>>> criticized and refuted Freud's methodology and explanation for the 
>>> unconscious.  His whole mythology about repression, as exemplified in 
>>> "Seduction Theory," has been shown bogus.  Freud offered all kinds of 
>>> enticing theories, especially so to literary theorists, who are 
>>> irresistibly attracted to the method -- Freud, after all, was a great 
>>> storyteller -- but none of these conjectures have ever been proved 
>>> empirically over the last century.  Of course, Freudian theory also 
>>> provides a convenient escape mechanism for
>> i!
>>>  ts unprovability, namely, not acknowledging the validity of the 
>>> theory is evidence of resistance to the theory.  I say no more.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: Beatrice Skordili <bskordil at otenet.gr>
>>>> Sent: Jul 2, 2007 10:20 AM
>>>> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: [ilds] Freud Returns
>>>>
>>>> Marc and others,
>>>>
>>>> (as promised), the _Scientific American Mind_ in the April/May 2006 
>>>> issue
>>>> contains a whole section devoted to Freud. The article I was 
>>>> thinking about
>>>> was by Mark Solms and titled "Freud Returns" (28-34).
>>>>   Also of interest might be Jean Pierre Changeux's _Neuronal Man: The
>>>> Biology of the Mind_.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Readings,
>>>>
>>>> Beatrice Skordili
>>>>
>>>>
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