[ilds] RG Justine 1.7 -- why should we hurt one another?

Michael Haag michaelhaag at btinternet.com
Fri Apr 20 16:59:17 PDT 2007


Exactly.  A second chance indeed.  As many as you can write.  My guess 
is that it helps you in 'reworking reality' if other people accept your 
reworkings.  Otherwise you would be alone in that hell.

:Michael







On Friday, April 20, 2007, at 08:54  pm, andy wrote:

> i am butting in here, tottaly unwarranted and uninvited.
> i have been working on a novel about my horrors in vietnam for six 
> years.
> in this way, i attain a sort of compromise, by reworking reality, so 
> intead of souls lost to the hell of war, i am not compromised, but get 
> a second chance, using prose poetry as a 
> venue to display the beauty amidst the gun smoke.
>  
> best to all
> andy 
>  
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: william godshalk
> To: ilds at lists.uvic.ca
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [ilds] RG Justine 1.7 -- why should we hurt one another?
>
> Well, I'm still puzzled by the "joyous compromise through art." Does 
> "compromise" here mean "coming to terms with"? Some how the artists 
> come to terms with what has wounded or defeated them in ordinary life? 
> And by this compromise they fulfill their potential destiny in and 
> through the imagination, while ordinary people do not. I suppose that 
> British "should" can be read as the American "would." Some how artists 
> will wound through their realization of their imaginative destiny? 
> It's not that they "want to." It's a concomitant of the > compromise?????
>
> WLG
>
> At 02:44 PM 4/20/2007, you wrote:
>
> For us artists there awaits the joyous compromise through art with all 
> that wounded or defeated us in daily life; in this way, not to evade 
> destiny, as the ordinary people try to do, but to fulfil it in its 
> true potential--the imagination.  Otherwise why should we hurt one 
> another?  (1.7)
>
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>  But why are we "willing to hurt each other?" Because artists achieve 
> their potential? Because artists achieve their destiny and ordinary 
> people try to evade theirs?
>
> Yeah, that last part, the question, is the tough part.  What is its 
> relation to the rather grandiose statements our narrator is tossing 
> about?  And how does the reference to violence connect with the fear 
> and need to protect children?  Cf. the posting on the deleted lines 
> ending this same episode. 
>
> I enjoy and appreciate in a Paterian sense the seascapes, landscapes, 
> and solitude with the child the narrator presents to us in 1.1 - 1.9.  
> But when the narrator turns to opining on life & art. . . .  "At times 
> when he is talking like this I have the sudden urge to jump on his 
> back and ride him frantically up and down Rue Fuad, thrashing him with 
> a Thesaurus and crying: 'Awake, Moon-calf!'"
>
> The interaction between the writers in the book--Darley, the 
> romanticist, and Pursewarden, the ironist--is so necessary.  Not only 
> to the characters inasmuch as the Quartet has quite a bit of 
> kunstleroman about it, but to LD's own balance.  (But then I do 
> something similar in reading Ulysses.  I am increasingly impatient 
> with Stephen.  Poldy is necessary for the balance.)
>
> Patience. Patience.  Potential for growth.
>
> CLS
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